[Darknemo2000]

This thread is not for flaming the manga or Medaka but to discuss it's ratings in WSJ. For those who do not know ratings are important in WSJ because if manga is tanking in the bottom five maga's with the worst ratings it is quite likely to be canceled. Thats how Mx0 and Hatsukoi Limited met its doom too.

This week we have a special occasion (for some joyful for some not) - Medaka Box managed to do even worser than Akaboshi and currently is the worst manga in WSJ. However, it is not that bad.

Here are the ratings of the WSJ issues with it. It shows only bottom five (the manga's that are in danger zone, except for To-Love-Ru whic is the special case as many of you know):

Medaka started since issue #24 (11/05) (but as you know the starting manga's are not rated until they hit a certain number of chapters) :

#31 (not in bottom 5) - Ch 1

#32 (not in bottom 5) - Ch 2

#33 - Ch 3
ToLoveRu
Medaka
Bakuman
Akaboshi
Kuroko

#34 (not in bottom 5) - Ch 4

#35 - Ch 5
Medaka
Toriko
Bakuman
Akaboshi
ToLoveRu

#36 - Ch 6
Medaka
Nurari
Akaboshi
Kuroko
ToLoveRu

#37-38 - Ch 7
Toriko
Bakuman
Medaka
Akaboshi
ToLove Ru

#39 - Ch 8
Kuroko
Medaka Box
Waji Mania
Akaboshi
ToLove

#40 - Ch 9
Hetappi Manga
Kagijin
Psyren
Akaboshi
Medaka

#41 - Ch 10
Wajima
Beelzebub
Sket Dance
Medaka
Kagijin

#42 - Ch 11
Ane Doki
Psyren
Akaboshi
Medaka
Kagijin

#43 (not in the bottom 5; Yuri kiss worked) - Ch 12

#44 - Ch 13
Wajima
Ane Doki
Psyren
Medaka
Kagijin

#45 - Ch 14
Beelzebub
Sket Dance
Medaka
Akaboshi
Kagijin

#46 (not in bottom 5) - Ch 15

#47 - Ch 16
Gintama
Medaka
Psyren
Akaboshi
Kagijin

#48 - Ch 17
Wajimania
Bakuman
Medaka
Akaboshi
Kagijin

#49 - Ch 18
Medaka
Sket Dance
Kashikoi
Ane Doki
Kagijin (End)

#50- Ch 19
Psyren
Shinigami
Wajima (The End)
Kuroko
Medaka

Saved by the bell. Or rather by a sudden end of ToLoveRu. It seems that this wave of cuts/new series will only have 1 out (ToLoveRu) and 2 in's (Aimoto and Ashihara). So Akaboshi/Medaka should be fine until the next wave. But then they both will be out.

What can save Medaka is that now it and AneDoki are the only ones that can at least try to take ToLove Ru's spot of fanservice... The problem is that in later chapters the amount of fanservice is almost as low as romance.

So far Medaka fans can be happy - seems like ToLove Ru saved Medaka from this cutting wave but if it does not improve things fast (its currently the worst WSJ manga, even worser than Akaboshi) the next cut wave will take it's life and there will be no sudden ToLove Ru ending to save it.

P.S. As for ToLOve Ru sudden end - there are romours that the magaka was planning to go out on issue 42 but due to a contract violation it was changed to 40.

[Amegashita]

Lol wasn't expecting the end of to love ru so quickly. Really that's surprising.

[KLGChaos]

Originally Posted by Amegashita

Lol wasn't expecting the end of to love ru so quickly. Really that's surprising.

It's kind of it's own fault. It's been nothing but ecchi with no story development for like 50 chapters. A series can't survive like that, no matter how many boobs it throws at us. :(

[Kagari]

Everything about this thread is fantastic.

[jofus]

that sucks about to-love-ru : /

just too much filler crap.

wonder what will take its place now

[shaolinx]

Originally Posted by jofus

that sucks about to-love-ru : /

just too much filler crap.

wonder what will take its place now

Hopefully a good harem manga... So did TLU get canceled or was it about to finish up?

back to topic: I think the author gave up on this one, hes too submerged in this other series. Not that I am complaing, because the other one is really good, but it seemed to come out at the wrong time. Thankfully, Medaka has been given another chance to redeem itself within the next 10-15 chapters. We all know it needs a MAJOR change at this point.

I think what would make it really interesting: make Zenkichi become a anti-hero, turn him into really evil and do something crazy like fight against Medaka.

[jofus]

Originally Posted by shaolinx

Hopefully a good harem manga... So did TLU get canceled or was it about to finish up?

canceled

I would love to see Zenkichi rage leave the council when the last slot is filled. He was disappointed he was made general affairs manager, and medaka told him to claw his way to the top.

So when the slots are filled, he realizes he has been taken advantage of, and leaves. He even admits he isn't exactly happy either here:
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/medaka_box/v01/c013/

See how well Medaka handles it when her supposed "pillar of strength" is taken from her.

I dont see a permanent leave of office, but maybe a good story arc.

Instead of this other council arc, it would be all the slots are filled, and Zen just says screw it and leaves.

It would have to show Medaka in a panic, and if following the story, probably a real big loss in her self confidence without him nearby.

I dunno, i think with the way the manga is going now, danger of being cut and all, a rival group just isnt the right opponent yet.

[Darknemo2000]

Originally Posted by jofus

canceled

I would love to see Zenkichi rage leave the council when the last slot is filled. He was disappointed he was made general affairs manager, and medaka told him to claw his way to the top.

So when the slots are filled, he realizes he has been taken advantage of, and leaves. He even admits he isn't exactly happy either here:
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/medaka_box/v01/c013/

See how well Medaka handles it when her supposed "pillar of strength" is taken from her.

I dont see a permanent leave of office, but maybe a good story arc.

Instead of this other council arc, it would be all the slots are filled, and Zen just says screw it and leaves.

It would have to show Medaka in a panic, and if following the story, probably a real big loss in her self confidence without him nearby.

I dunno, i think with the way the manga is going now, danger of being cut and all, a rival group just isnt the right opponent yet.

Though TLR was canceled, it is bit weird the way it was done. The rumors say that it was planned for TLR end in issue 42, thus giving time for more prepared ending, but because of contract violation both sides started to bicker and WSJ decided to cut it on issue 40 instead. It is not confirmed because WSJ tries to hide it's inner issues.

Medaka has a chance and since there are no new harem mangas in the horizon, the TLR 'lost audience' will be taken by AneDoki and Medaka, but for that Medaka needs to increase fanservice and maybe make a real harem for Zen instead of reversed harem where everyone falls for Medaka. The current arc won't make it good for Medaka even if fanservice is increased, because last time I checked the 10 year old genius male villain is not very popular in shounen, specially in the series that already have a reversed harem (thus increases the chances of brat joining the reversed harem as well, which is no good).

Most likely AneDoki will take majority of TLR audience instead of Medaka. Reasons:

1) It has much more fanservice.
2) Artwork is better (specially drawing girls)
3) Has some romance/comedy in it (tough some may argue that Medaka has some romance too, you have to admit that the amount of it is very pathetic).
4) Has a male lead (Zen is better than he is, but again Zen is not a male hero anymore because the main character is Medaka 95% of the time while Zen is usually pushed to a lap-dog role).
5) AneDoki heroine is not as annoying as Medaka. (some may like Medaka, but usually the number of her fans is low, specially for the main heroine. Heck, Shira is more popular than her).

Medaka has to change things or else it is still goner even if sudden TLR cut gave it another chance

For those who wonder what chapter ratings are based on - do the simple counting.

Issue 31 ratings were based on ch 1, #32 on ch 2, #33 on ch 3 and so on and so on. The current issue 40 ratings (that made Medaka the worst) are based on ch 10 I think (I do not know how to count the double issue).

[jofus]

Originally Posted by Darknemo2000

The current arc won't make it good for Medaka even if fanservice is increased, because last time I checked the 10 year old genius male villain is not very popular in shounen, specially in the series that already have a reversed harem (thus increases the chances of brat joining the reversed harem as well, which is no good).

If the kid really does join the council, there really isn't any hope for this manga. It doesn't even matter if the story focus's on Zen either. No matter what, short of Zen leaving, all the roles have been filled, and it would be a permanent reverse harem. 3 boys 2 girls does not make a good harem for a male lead.

Zen would have to leave the student council behind for any hope of there being an actual harem in his favor.

For Zen to leave and combat against Medaka would actually be quite exciting, but he has been her lapdog since the age of 2, and things aren't going to change now.


Suppose though this manga isn't supposed to be a harem manga. Maybe its just a normal school romance?
Except that there has been barely any evidence of romance going on. So its not a romance manga?
Then what is it? A school slice of life manga? Impossible, with the super powers Medaka has?
An Action manga? With the maybe 7 pages of fighting in the entirety of the manga?
And it certainly isn't a mystery, drama, sports, or any other serious type of manga.

Then it could only be a....

A reverse harem manga? Where the female lead has:
The childhood friend who loves her = Zen
The rival for her love with childhood friend = Akune
The female who likes her more than she should = Kikaijima
The girl who hates her but respects her = Onigase
Possibly the super young genius boy = the brat (since we dont know his name)

This looks like a line-up for Ouran Host Club.

[Kagari]

It tries to be everything but excels at nothing. They would have to completely overhaul this manga and start over to make it jump in rank. Reverse harem, eh? I hope so, then it would be canceled sooner. There would have to be something redeeming about the manga for that to work.

By the way Jofus, I registered to your site. Hope to have some good discussions!