[Gazzadus]

I have just been thinking, Blackbeard's ability is the black hole thingy, uses gravity to crush the enemy, in real life black hole crushes everything down to atomic levels but after reading the battle between ace + Blackbeard we can still see the wooden planks...etc... of the houses broken by his atack, which means his ability is no where near that of the real thing.

The question: If Blackbeard's ability is to crush the enemy, will it effect rubber? Rubber can be squishy and is immune to normal crush attacks, and due to the fact that Blackbeard can't transform his body, luffy can hit him even without the use of haki.

[avidreader]

His ability removes other DF abilities when in contact so that means when he's touching Luffy or the other way around Luffy becomes normal. This means that if Luffy punches him from far away, Luffy's hand will become normal flesh when it touches BB and just get ripped off from the tension. If he's in gear 2 his blood vessels will all explode and he'll receive severe internal bleeding and injuries. If he is in gear 3 the limb that is affected by the bone ballone will explode and be destroyed because of the air pressure.

That said if Luffy fights the way he normally does he has 0% chance of winning, 99% chance of losing and a 1% chance of getting a draw. He can't win because the moment he touches BB his rubber status is removed and even the most simble gomu gomu no pistol will cause his arm to tear off if he is in the middle of using it since normal flesh can't stretch. The draw is if he takes out BB with one hit and receives severe damage from his own techniques thus both parties are rendered unconscious or unable to battle.

Luffy's only hope is in using haki attacks infused punches to disable BB's DF ability so that BB can't remove his rubber status. If this is achieved the chance of winning becomes 50%, the chance of losing is 0% and the chance of draw is 50%. If haki is used effectively, BB cannot disable Luffy's powers hence there is no chance of losing. The chance of winning is not 100% but only 50% because BB can still use gravity to push Luffy away or hold Luffy down while BB escapes. Since no party is defeated in the case where one escapes I consider that a draw.

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[YoiYoi.....savy]

actually blackbeards ability is darkness itsself so he can copy whatever a black hole does and control how strong it is, and i think the reason he can be hit is if he turns into full darkness he will become a true blackhole which will suck everthing into it or something like that...

[alexandria tale]

hmmm... good question..
wait, do blackbeard need to ejected every trash he swallowed? if not, i wonder if luffy could escape from his black hole

[avidreader]

Originally Posted by YoiYoi.....savy

actually blackbeards ability is darkness itsself so he can copy whatever a black hole does and control how strong it is, and i think the reason he can be hit is if he turns into full darkness he will become a true blackhole which will suck everthing into it or something like that...

Negative. If that were the case he cannot be hit. You can't hit a black hole.
It may be possible for him to make one though.

[alexandria tale]

Originally Posted by avidreader

Negative. If that were the case he cannot be hit. You can't hit a black hole.
It may be possible for him to make one though.

except if luffy has haki.. then it's a possibility

[avidreader]

Originally Posted by alexandria tale

except if luffy has haki.. then it's a possibility

No that's not the point here. He said BB can become a blackhole I'm saying he cant become a blackhole.
If he could become a blackhole he can't be hit because you can't hit a black hole.
I'm talking about a real blackhole. Haki has nothing to do with it. Using Haki to take away the DF ability is common knowledge at this point.

[alexandria tale]

Originally Posted by avidreader

No that's not the point here. He said BB can become a blackhole I'm saying he cant become a blackhole.
If he could become a blackhole he can't be hit because you can't hit a black hole.
I'm talking about a real blackhole. Haki has nothing to do with it. Using Haki to take away the DF ability is common knowledge at this point.

but BB said that he himself is the black hole. it's true he can't be hit. but in ace's case, he is also hurt by ace's flame.. oh, and also by magellan's poison.

btw, i have a question:
do blackbeard need to ejected every trash he swallowed? if not, i wonder if luffy could escape from his black hole

[pongkes]

Originally Posted by avidreader

No that's not the point here. He said BB can become a blackhole I'm saying he cant become a blackhole.
If he could become a blackhole he can't be hit because you can't hit a black hole.
I'm talking about a real blackhole. Haki has nothing to do with it. Using Haki to take away the DF ability is common knowledge at this point.

haki user can touch anything.i mean DF element..
Dark king use his haki to stop kizaru's light kick..
in real life,we cant touch light..same goes to the black hole.we also cant touch black hole..
but in OP,dark king can touch kizaru's light after he activate his haki..
in my opinion,haki also works against black hole and the other element...

[jonlex]

BlackBeards kinda like the kid on X-MEN who negates mutants abilities