[Salmoxis]

I was thinking a bit, and I was wondering, where are the other masters of the katsujin-ken (the saving fist)?

I can understand how there would be less users of the katsujin-ken than the satsujin-ken (the killing fist), but the difference is just too much. There have been many, many, many satsujin-ken masters, but very few katsujin-ken masters.

So far, the katsujin-ken masters I can think of are:

• -The Elder
• -Akisame
• -Apachai
• -Shigure
• -Ma Kensei
• -Sakaki
• -James Shiba
• -the Jiujutsu guy from the mountains whose son Kenichi trained with (Yamato?)
• -Jennifer Gray
• -Lancelot Gray (Jennifer's father; he's dead, but I'm including him anyway)

And the ones who might be katsujin-ken:

• -Ma Hakubi (Ma Kensei's uncle; he beats up the local mafia members when drunk, and has two disciples, but the manga never comes out and says he's katsujin-ken)
• -Ma Sougetsu (it kind of seems like he has his own agenda with the One Shadow, Nine Fist, but that might just be me)
• -the Tenshi Mushin Ryuu guy from chapter 218 (I heard that in Japanese the elder is actually saying "huh" and not "grr" as it says in this manga, and I don't remember, but I think there was something in a later chapter that made him not seem satsujin-ken)
• -the guy that taught Shinnosuke "Shaggy Hair" koppou (he didn't kill Shinnosuke or anything, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's satsujin-ken, though it doesn't mean he's katsujin-ken either)

That's all that I can think of right now. It seems like a long list, but there are many more satsujin-ken masters. While the katsujin-ken masters do seem stronger than the satsujin-ken ones, that doesn't really explain why there are so few of them.

If there's any masters I forgot, just list them.