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10-27-2009, 09:04 PM
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The Chess Game! [All new discussion]
Ok, so after reading 55 (which I loved) I was wondering when you all though the chess game started.
Oh and what the chess game being in this chapter might mean 
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10-27-2009, 09:12 PM
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When it started...? Hard question.
It could mean that's it's starting right now with the apeareance of potential new enemies. But I'd like to believe best that it started a long long time ago, when the ancestor was still alive and maybe, who knows, Ouri is old enough to be part of this past... I don't know. I'm just rambling... But I would love to know that this new arc will open up the history of the ancestor of vampires, the arising of hunters who ate a pureblood and all this related things all entangled in this new plot that's beginning now. I don't know if you guys get what I mean... 
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10-27-2009, 10:14 PM
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i think, to find out when the chess game began, we first need to know what "checkmate" means. What is Kaname's final goal? Or rather, what is Sara's ultimate goal? I mean, if Sara really wanted to "disturb peace" (hypothetically), what are her motivations? (aside from Hino just wanting to stirr up trouble).
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10-27-2009, 10:28 PM
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 *edit* And we also have to remember the purebloods asleep in the castle Ruka and Kain visited. I'm sure they will have their role in this story too. But about this I definitely can't tell yet.
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10-28-2009, 02:09 AM
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i see it like the chess game between vampires and hunters and it started long time ago when their war begun
but it could also mean something between the kurans and saraXouri...a really misterious thing here
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10-28-2009, 06:03 AM
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here's what i think...
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*flips through manga pages* The chess game i think was hinted early on... Kaname playing alone with his chessboard, and the words "pawn", "game", and "piece" being used by Kaname, Shizuka and Sara... I really think it's a chess game between purebloods.... A game to get more power... Drinking the blood of purebloods makes you gain more powers/ makes you a lot stronger, right? The first line in the new chapter did say, "A chess match so violent that it would consume everything." Here's Takuma's grandfather's (or was it dad? uncle? gaaah, can't remember.. O_o) idea on that... with a twist: that the game, instead of becoming completely extinct, there would be just one or two purebloods left to rule everyone else... That would be a nice enough motivation, no? Aaaand, they will both use pawns-- vampires and hunters alike-- manipulating them to further their goal. What i think Kaname's goal is, to make sure Yuuki can walk outside without anyone preying on her... Which is probably the very reason why her mother used her powers to make Yuuki forget being a vampire in the first place... I guess this includes those vampires that have the desire to drink a pureblood's blood... Which is probably why he took the trouble in being the vampire race's representative... To keep them in check.... He eliminated the vampire council and Rido because of this.. (revenge for his "parents" too, i guess...) Basically, eliminating all big enough threats to Yuuki's safety. That's his goal, i think. To him, the ends probably justify the means... Any number of sacrifices would work just fine, if it means the only precious person in his world is safe and happy. I say it's the thought that counts.  Shizuka wanted Kaname's blood, and was trying to get Yuuki to kill him. About Sara.... i think she wants Kaname's blood as well..... And her plans on doing that include manipulating Takuma for something, because she thinks that Takuma is the closest person to Kaname since she didn't meet Yuuki until this party started.... Not sure what the plans are, though.. Maybe she'll change plans and target Yuuki sometime soon as well... Kaname did say that was the right way to target him, anyway... On another note... Just a theory... but could Sara have somehow told Ouri to bite that hunter, and the hunter sort of inflicted a wound on Ouri making his healing abilities null and void, and then Sara went to kill her fiance?(Just like how Zero shot Shizuka, then Kaname just waited for the kill, since she won't heal...)
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10-28-2009, 08:25 AM
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That chess game has been in the story ever since the beginning! And it was probably implicated that it will be use until the end! Since chess is a 2 player game, Kaname is the 1st player and the second is probably Sara! So it just says, until someone checkmate the other then it will be the end! It doesn't imply that you need to kill every single pawn/piece in the game for you to be the victor! It will only makes sense that those two are using the pieces in such a way that 'death' is the rather tragic end for the 'piece.' I believe that Kaname will try not to kill every single 'piece that he have since Yuuki will be rather sad loosing one of her precious people. (I think most of his pieces are acquaintances of his and I think Aido and the others are also in the game, albeit they do not know). And don't forget about Zero! He's a 'chess piece' that Kaname had made a long time ago, his "King" right? So I'm guessing that Zero will be doing a lot of things for Kaname for Yuuki's sake...I don't know how, but it will be probably a little bit of a shove to Zero seeing that no matter what happens Zero will never betray Yuuki.. But I won't be surprise if Kaname had made Yuuki one of his chess pieces, but we don't know which piece she will be.. Probably the queen.. that's the only thing that I can think off..
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10-28-2009, 09:26 AM
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It's possible, maybe she did it to get rid of her fiance. I agree with the things you said. Is it confirmed that Sara killed his fiance? It looks like it to me. |
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10-28-2009, 05:43 PM
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And yeah, I would agree with you in everything. First, Kaname is really doing everything for Yuuki. I think you explained it well, and you also well rememered that he wants to make the world a more peaceful place so Yuuki can be free again, really very similar to Juuri's wish. Yeah, yeah... Being protective is a Kuran trait.  But there's another very important point you lifted that I wanted to discuss too. I agree so much with you when you said that chess game is a pureblood game for power. And "swallowing pieces" would mean devour the power of your opponent.. Like Shizuka said... the loser dies. You know, there are pacific purebloods who dream with co-existence with humans and only fight to protected their loved ones and to eliminate any harm that could threat the peace, like the Kurans. But there are also purebloods who disagree with pacifism and support the "old lifestyle" where humans are mere food and other purebloods are just a source for more power. So those two sides would eventually end up fighting for dominance. And I think this war (or game) is much much older than what we think.... If not, how could Kaname be so immersed in it if his life in his current body is so short? Specially if one of his potential enemies is old enough to call Sara as a mere "little girl". I'm really looking forward to know when this violent bloody game begun...
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10-28-2009, 07:42 PM
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@ fall3n_21: your analysis is interesting, that Kaname is playing chess all for the sake of Yuuki... and maybe world peace. I also think that the purebloods are out to devour each other like some of you have said. It seems to be in Vampire's nature to consume everything they desire. A little gluttonous aren't they?
 The chess game analogy is very perplexing. Its a game where pieces are moved, not a game where players make the move themselves, they are not the pieces (like sports). There is implication that two sides are being manipulated for the sake of the players ultimate goal of victory. I kind of feel sorry for the "pieces" in that sense. Hino... I wonder how much chess she plays... some of her analogies seem off. Zero, the "King" that would consume all enemies doesn't make any sense. The King is the most important piece on the board, but next to a pawn, he is pretty much the weakest piece. The King needs all the protection and does very little of knocking off opponents. Hence Hino calling him something that will "devour" the enemies in Western Chess play is off. A Knight is another piece taken from the title of the manga that has been hotly debated on. I won't touch that topic lol. But the Knight is the only piece that can be in a position to attack pieces of higher rank without reciprocating the same danger. More so, it is the only piece that can be moved to start a game other than a pawn. It will be interesting when or if Hino ever reveals who the Knight (piece) in her story is. She can always claim that the Knight in her title always referred to the literal one... or that a title is just a title XD Pawns, are weakest, but there are many of them, and pawns have the ability to become a crowned Queen, Rook, Bishop, or Knight. In my eyes, I think Yuuki started as a pawn and now has become a Queen (or some may think a Knight). If Yuuki is a queen and Zero is a King on the opposing side then they have problems XD But if they are on the same side, Yuuki will be protecting him.(I love kickass Yuuki) Also, if Yuuki is a chess piece, she can't be protecting Kaname, he has always been portrayed as a player of the game, she can only be moved by him lol. The first page of the latest chapter where we are reintroduced to the chess analogy shows Yuuki, if she were a chess piece to be white, the King there is black, I think it signifies her "check" or "checkmate" move. Who that King is we don't know, it could be the new big enemy. The beginning of this chess game I believe started with the first appearance of the original vampire. At some point in the manga, I think it was in a flashback of Aidou and Kain's childhood days, it was told to readers that the first vampire appeared in the darkest days of human history. It was then that "enemies" of humankind arrived. It could be that vampires were always around and it was only then that they let themselves be known, its all still very murky but that seems to be when wars pitting humans against vampires began. How the wars started we don't know but both sides could have had very good reasons to fight: vampires fought because humans may have discriminated against them violently and wanted their powers, while humans could have fought because vampires killed them for food. It seems now that another war is about to break out (if things are not handled correctly) and opposing sides are out to set things right and for all. Edit: I really need to stop with these great long posts. Last edited by ohanasama; 10-28-2009 at 07:48 PM. Reason: idiocy |
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