[deadface3405]

Is the ending in the anime the same thing in the manga?? anyone one know??

[Empyrean]

They follow different story arcs from the original visual novel. They start similar and diverge.

[M.Clarkson]

As far as i know this manga covers the unlimited blade works arc from the audio visual novel. Which is where Shiro learns more about projection work from Archer

Who is Shiro from the future

and they get the some random ending that is the "happiest" ending out of all 3 of the games endings...

Though i did want to see a different ending from the Anime where Shiro and Saber got to be together but alas cruel game developers are cruel!

I like the unlimited blade works arc too it's just that Saber holds a special place in my heart and it sucks that she didn't get her happy ending too... Just conked it out under a tree...

It really does suck that Saber and Shiro don't get to be together They really deserved to be together after all they have been through... And the movie won't cover the same arc it's Blade works too so we will never be able to know if they did end up getting together... If i had my way they would but alas...

[ayami123]

Originally Posted by M.Clarkson

As far as i know this manga covers the unlimited blade works arc from the audio visual novel. Which is where Shiro learns more about projection work from Archer

Who is Shiro from the future

and they get the some random ending that is the "happiest" ending out of all 3 of the games endings...

Though i did want to see a different ending from the Anime where Shiro and Saber got to be together but alas cruel game developers are cruel!

I like the unlimited blade works arc too it's just that Saber holds a special place in my heart and it sucks that she didn't get her happy ending too... Just conked it out under a tree...

It really does suck that Saber and Shiro don't get to be together They really deserved to be together after all they have been through... And the movie won't cover the same arc it's Blade works too so we will never be able to know if they did end up getting together... If i had my way they would but alas...

but too bad if you want shirou and saber to be together then just watch the last episode on realta nua on
ps2 haha ) that the real ending in the fate arc )

if you want the real end i'll tell you

after saber disappeared shirou followed his ideal and ended like archer being betrayed but his personality didn't fully become archer because he trying to reach where saber is and in the end. he met his end at the hands on those who he protected. and after he died he woke up in a field were saber is there waiting for him then saber told him that welcome home that all

[Silver Thief]

Originally Posted by ayami123

but too bad if you want shirou and saber to be together then just watch the last episode on realta nua on
ps2 haha ) that the real ending in the fate arc )

if you want the real end i'll tell you

after saber disappeared shirou followed his ideal and ended like archer being betrayed but his personality didn't fully become archer because he trying to reach where saber is and in the end. he met his end at the hands on those who he protected. and after he died he woke up in a field were saber is there waiting for him then saber told him that welcome home that all

That's only in Realta Nua, it's not explained how he dies, nor how did he get to this place, in fact there's no explanation for it except it's technically the "true" ending of Fate, maybe UBW, but probably not HF

[Cherry_lover]

Originally Posted by Silver Thief

That's only in Realta Nua, it's not explained how he dies, nor how did he get to this place, in fact there's no explanation for it except it's technically the "true" ending of Fate, maybe UBW, but probably not HF

It's an ending that's been stuck in there to please Saber fans, with little or no explanation. It doesn't make a lot of sense, really (given what we know about the Throne of Heroes). It's possibly the true ending of Fate, definitely not the true ending of HF (why would either Saber be waiting for him, or him waiting for Saber after HF? If he's going to spend an eternity with anyone after HF, it'd be Sakura, without a doubt) and probably not UBW (again, after UBW, he's probably going to want to be with Rin, not Saber, and in one of the endings, she's still there anyway).

[tulron41]

Originally Posted by Cherry_lover

It's an ending that's been stuck in there to please Saber fans, with little or no explanation. It doesn't make a lot of sense, really (given what we know about the Throne of Heroes). It's possibly the true ending of Fate, definitely not the true ending of HF (why would either Saber be waiting for him, or him waiting for Saber after HF? If he's going to spend an eternity with anyone after HF, it'd be Sakura, without a doubt) and probably not UBW (again, after UBW, he's probably going to want to be with Rin, not Saber, and in one of the endings, she's still there anyway).

Yes the original poster was referring to the true ending of fate in realta nua version of the game. In that case it makes sense, because apparently at that time Saber would be free from the throne of heroes, because she would have fully died, because by that time shirou and saber would have destroyed the holy grail etc etc. It is all kind of convoluted, and again it really is just an ending thrown in to please saber fans. Let's think about this, not once did the game ever suggest anything about after death, instead it deals with actions taken during life. suddenly going. "oh. after saber dies she goes to a happy place and shirou will meet her there" is as close as you can get to "look people. we gave u a great sad story arc and u complained so in the ps2 version we're gonna make u feel slightly better by making death seem better than it is.

lol, to me, the fate ending is as impacting as it is because Saber chooses death, just like Shirou chooses death. They are similar, yet they can never fully intertwine because they are so stubborn, they could have easily said. fuck this lets live happily ever after (in fact right after the sex scene shirou nearly tries to say that, but saber shuts him up, and he complies because honestly, he has no right to ask someone to step away from her/his responsibilities and ideals.) It's just, having them meet up again after death to spend eternity happily ever after is just plain fucking stupid. it takes away from the emotion.

(yes i realize that heroic spirits is a representation of wat happens after death, but thats only in the case of heroic spirits, in fact doesnt it state that heroic spirits is the world taking a hero's soul and not letting it be reincarnated so that it can save the world? there you have it, saber can not be with shirou because if they were to die they would be reincarnated.)

[Cherry_lover]

Originally Posted by tulron41

Yes the original poster was referring to the true ending of fate in realta nua version of the game.

Actually, he was referring (presumably) to Last episode. Which isn't the "true ending" to Fate. You only get it when you get all the endings, and it's never specified when or where it happens (if at all). It's just the most reasonable assumption that it follows Fate.

In that case it makes sense, because apparently at that time Saber would be free from the throne of heroes

Actually, she goes there no matter what. She is a hero, after all. What she's free of is the pact that she made with the world, which would make her a Counter Guardian. In any case, the alternative to going there is to have your soul recycled, which means that you are erased entirely.

It is all kind of convoluted, and again it really is just an ending thrown in to please saber fans.

No argument there.

Let's think about this, not once did the game ever suggest anything about after death, instead it deals with actions taken during life.

No, but there is a lot of other material that does. After death, in the Nasuverse, your soul gets recycled.

suddenly going "oh. after saber dies she goes to a happy place and shirou will meet her there" is as close as you can get to "look people. we gave u a great sad story arc and u complained so in the ps2 version we're gonna make u feel slightly better by making death seem better than it is.

Yeah, again, I'm not going to disagree with that.

lol, to me, the fate ending is as impacting as it is because Saber chooses death, just like Shirou chooses death. They are similar, yet they can never fully intertwine because they are so stubborn, they could have easily said. fuck this lets live happily ever after (in fact right after the sex scene shirou nearly tries to say that, but saber shuts him up, and he complies because honestly, he has no right to ask someone to step away from her/his responsibilities and ideals.)

Yeah. That's the whole point of the ending of Fate. Both of them live by their ideals, and their ideals force them to let each other go. They deserve to be together, but because of who they are, they never can be. That's why it's so depressing. Shirou and Saber (and Rin, and Sakura) are such nice people that they all deserve to be happy, really, but Shirou in Fate and Saber never can be, because they're just too unselfish to take that opportunity (admittedly, in Fate they don't have a lot of choice, but HF Shirou would have made a way of keeping Saber there, like he does for Sakura).